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I will support the Democratic nominee

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I’m an Obama supporter who has had plenty of qualms with the Clinton campaign and, yes, I’ve harbored thoughts about not supporting Clinton or putting in less than a full effort in the general election if Obama isn’t the nominee. But I always talk myself out of that. Some of the things that have gone through my mind:

  • Emotion plays a huge part in the way we process information and make decisions (read Lakoff or Hartmann or marry a psychologist – or all three like me!). So I realize that and know that I’m being pretty selfish when I allow myself to consider not supporting Clinton, if she’s the nominee.
  • Remember after the 2004 election when we were all incredulous about some of the reasons people voted for GWB? Any reason I could come up with for voting for McCain would be no better. I’m not going to allow myself to be equated with the “I’d like to have a beer with him” crowd.
  • The presidential race is not about me. This is the future of the country and world we are talking about. All I have to do is look at my kids and know that I better do everything in my power to avoid the equivalent of a third Bush term.
  • If I could go back in time and do something that would give either Gore or Kerry a victory, I’d do it. Think of all the damage I could reverse! But of course, I can’t do that. But I can envision myself in 2010 or 2011 under a McCain presidency and realize what I have to do now.

    • I’d like to hear from others with whom I’ll be working this summer and fall, and why you will also be supporting our nominee.

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    1. I am a feminist. I struggled a bit, but I have been an Obama supporter since early on. I have been very troubled by the Clinton campaign especially in the past month or so. However as I told a friend recently who was saying she couldn’t vote for Clinton if she was the nominee, if by some bizarre chance Clinton is the nominee I will work as hard as I can to make sure she gets elected. I will make calls, knock on doors, and go back to NH. We can not let McCain win.

    3. I did the math recently, and the Social Security Actuarial tables put the odds of an 88-year old male surviving another five years somewhere around a coin flip.

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      p>Everything we care about is potentially at stake.  Another Scalia/Thomas/Alito/Roberts on the bench and we can kiss our civil liberties goodbye…

    4. I haven’t been shy about expressing my putative dismay if Hillary  were to win through superdelegate machinations.

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      p>I’ve got plenty of issues and concerns with Clnton, which I won’t dwell on here.  But even if she pulls off an upset now somehow, I’d fall in line.  For all the reasons that Jasiu describes, I recognize that our country would be better off with either Democratic candidate than four more years of Republican mismanagement.  

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      p>I would try to take out my disappointment and frustration in other, more constructive ways.  I’m not sure what those are, but I’ll figure it out.

        • You’ve gotten to the point where you are now pissing off fellow Obama supporters.  

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          p>Not only do you continue to make the rest of us look bad, but you’re not doing any favors to the under-25 crowd either. Please, give it a rest.

          • I am just stating the fact that mathematically speaking Obama is the nominee and I am pledged to support him-how is that obnoxious? Since when did facts offend people?  

              1. Mathematically speaking, nobody has clinched anything.
                2. You know that already, but you still can’t resist taking yet another shot.

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              p>Jaisu’s thread was extremely gracious- we really are all in this together.  Your sole point of posting the way you did in this thread was to twist the needle yet again.

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              p>It seems like every diary for the last three months has been some shot at Clinton or her supporters.  She should drop out.  She should suspend her campaign.  She can’t win.  Even your VP post referred to her as “politically irrelevant.”  You’re the poster boy for what Clinton supporters and even independents are calling “sore winners” and you’re doing a grave disservice both to your candidate and those of us who support him.

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              p>We get it.  You like Obama.  You don’t like Clinton.  Now land the plane.

    5. Barack and McCain or Hillary and McCain is a whole lot smaller than Hillary and Barack. Either of the two dems will set this country back on the right path and at least get this country over the hangover we’re sure to exhibit after 8 years of the Bush administration, if not demonstratively improve the lives of the vast majority of Americans over what we saw in the 90s (because they’ve only gone down since).  

    6. I will support the Democratic Nominee.  It has never crossed my mind to not vote for whoever wins the Democratic Nomination.

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      p>The country and the world has been so ruined in the past 8 years that I am not sure that anyone can help make it recover from the devastation.

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      p>But never did I doubt that any one of the Democratic candidates would not be better than any one of the Republican candidates.

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      p>I hope that anyone who thought that there was no difference between George Bush and Al Gore and anyone who thought that there was no difference between George Bush and John Kerry have learned the lesson.  I hope they are not tempted to make a statement by voting for a third party candidate or just sitting it out this time.  There is a fundamental difference and we have been paying the price for it every day that George Bush has been president.  John McCain is not Republican-lite.  He is not a fiscal conservative but social liberal Republican.  There is a huge difference and I don’t want to live with that for the next four years.

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