Always good to see the candidates come together quickly.
kirth
2020 years ago
vote for whoever won the Democratic primary,* and I will. I hope that Ms Coakley will be more of a progressive than she has sometimes appeared to be, WRT the War on Some Drugs and rights of the accused.
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p>* It was in the thread that the moderators disappeared.
we had our reasons for supporting other candidates. It’s hard to let go of that. We may never get our most hoped for qualities from Martha Coakley. What I don’t want to hear from her is rhetoric to appease those who supported other candidates. I would rather she be honest about where she stands on issues, even if we don’t like it. I would rather see her listen earnestly to other opinions and come to a genuine conclusion to change her position. There is nothing I hate more than lip service.
somervilletom
2020 years ago
Martha Coakley to take an outspoken, leadership role in the fight to preserve a strong public option.
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p>I would love to see her and Mike Capuano, along with the rest of the Massachusetts congressional delegation, make strong statement that a health care reform bill without a strong public option is dead on arrival.
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p>Ms. Coakley and Mr. Capuano fought this fight over abortion restrictions, and landed on virtually the same page.
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p>A strong public option is far more important. I look forward to Martha Coakley’s leadership on this vital issue — such leadership will make a huge difference in what I do in the voting booth next January.
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p>Not to put too fine a point on it, but let me be very quickly clear — I will not vote for any Representative or Senator, including Barney Frank (my own rep) — who votes to accept a health care bill without a strong public option.
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p>The strong public option is already a compromise from the correct answer, which is government-sponsored single-payer health care. Without even this compromise, the proposed legislation is not reform and should be defeated.
we cant believe that she was the right person to replace Teddy if he was still here and well this health care bill would probobly be passed by now haha IMO
that we need to carry on the efforts for Ted Kennedy. If he was still in the Senate he would have probobly gotten the senate to pass it unanimously. Martha needs to commit to the public option now to let us know she is committed to furthering the dream and making sure it lives on
My first point is that it is completely unfair to suggest that “if Ted Kennedy were here” anything, it is all conjecture. And to somehow suggest that the Republicans would all be on board is probably downright insane.
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p>Secondly, Ted was the master of the compromise. He had fiery rhetoric, but at the end of the day, he made deals that he felt were in the best interest of this country. To suggest that he would have been unrelenting in his support of the PO is hard to say. I would even venture that history may be against the argument.
that we need to carry on the efforts for Ted Kennedy. If he was still in the Senate he would have probobly gotten the senate to pass it unanimously.
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p>… and quite another to flirt with alternate realities.
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p>Ted Kennedy WAS in the senate in the 60’s during the original passage of Medicare AND he was in the senate during the last time we tried to reform health care, in the 90’s and he was instrumental in passing the WIC, AFDC and Family Medical Leave act. During his entire tenure it was a rare bill that saw unanimity, and certainly none involving health care was ever passed unanimously, if it passed at all.
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p>Ted Kennedy is not known, nor hailed, for passing large reforms with unanimity. Quite the opposite: he is known, and widely hailed, for patiently making attempts, large and small, with varying degrees of success and with little in the way of recriminations, bitterness or regrets regardless of the outcome.
I miss him too. I think Mike Capuano has a similar fighting spirit. I still wish it was Mike who would be our next senator from Massachusetts. It’s just a shame that he won’t be. : (
Always good to see the candidates come together quickly.
vote for whoever won the Democratic primary,* and I will. I hope that Ms Coakley will be more of a progressive than she has sometimes appeared to be, WRT the War on Some Drugs and rights of the accused.
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p>* It was in the thread that the moderators disappeared.
let’s see if we can get them to her and get some answers.
we had our reasons for supporting other candidates. It’s hard to let go of that. We may never get our most hoped for qualities from Martha Coakley. What I don’t want to hear from her is rhetoric to appease those who supported other candidates. I would rather she be honest about where she stands on issues, even if we don’t like it. I would rather see her listen earnestly to other opinions and come to a genuine conclusion to change her position. There is nothing I hate more than lip service.
Martha Coakley to take an outspoken, leadership role in the fight to preserve a strong public option.
<
p>I would love to see her and Mike Capuano, along with the rest of the Massachusetts congressional delegation, make strong statement that a health care reform bill without a strong public option is dead on arrival.
<
p>Ms. Coakley and Mr. Capuano fought this fight over abortion restrictions, and landed on virtually the same page.
<
p>A strong public option is far more important. I look forward to Martha Coakley’s leadership on this vital issue — such leadership will make a huge difference in what I do in the voting booth next January.
<
p>Not to put too fine a point on it, but let me be very quickly clear — I will not vote for any Representative or Senator, including Barney Frank (my own rep) — who votes to accept a health care bill without a strong public option.
<
p>The strong public option is already a compromise from the correct answer, which is government-sponsored single-payer health care. Without even this compromise, the proposed legislation is not reform and should be defeated.
we cant believe that she was the right person to replace Teddy if he was still here and well this health care bill would probobly be passed by now haha IMO
because I have no idea what you are trying to say.
that we need to carry on the efforts for Ted Kennedy. If he was still in the Senate he would have probobly gotten the senate to pass it unanimously. Martha needs to commit to the public option now to let us know she is committed to furthering the dream and making sure it lives on
My first point is that it is completely unfair to suggest that “if Ted Kennedy were here” anything, it is all conjecture. And to somehow suggest that the Republicans would all be on board is probably downright insane.
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p>Secondly, Ted was the master of the compromise. He had fiery rhetoric, but at the end of the day, he made deals that he felt were in the best interest of this country. To suggest that he would have been unrelenting in his support of the PO is hard to say. I would even venture that history may be against the argument.
… to lionize Ted Kennedy appropriately…
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p>… and quite another to flirt with alternate realities.
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p>Ted Kennedy WAS in the senate in the 60’s during the original passage of Medicare AND he was in the senate during the last time we tried to reform health care, in the 90’s and he was instrumental in passing the WIC, AFDC and Family Medical Leave act. During his entire tenure it was a rare bill that saw unanimity, and certainly none involving health care was ever passed unanimously, if it passed at all.
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p>Ted Kennedy is not known, nor hailed, for passing large reforms with unanimity. Quite the opposite: he is known, and widely hailed, for patiently making attempts, large and small, with varying degrees of success and with little in the way of recriminations, bitterness or regrets regardless of the outcome.
that I miss Teddy and wish he was still the Senator and able to debate this issue
I miss him too. I think Mike Capuano has a similar fighting spirit. I still wish it was Mike who would be our next senator from Massachusetts. It’s just a shame that he won’t be. : (
i still plan to support martha. Still havvvve the button the campaign gave me