A picture from outside Jon Golnik’s event with Giuliani in Lowell. Somehow I don’t think this is the backdrop Golnik had in mind for the mayor’s endorsement interview.
p>For some odd reason, Golnik’s staff pulled the enemic Golnik vis crew indoors about 20 minutes before Golnik arrived. Then 10 minutes later, Mr. 9/11 got there.
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p>Rudy showed up to see nothing but Tsongas Tsupporters!
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p>The event drew less than 50. 80, if you count us.
millburymansays
Are non-democrats rude when they upstage a democratic event? But democrats, forgive me, are entitled to upstage a non-democratic event? Someone want to try to explain it to me? Niki’s running scared. McGovern is ahead of Lamb by one point, according to Jimmy’s inside polling. Boy, I can’t wait to see the Elbridge Gerry Studds-mandering this time!
A) You are out of your mind if you think Lamb is up on McGovern by a point by McGovern’s polling. If Lamb were up by 1 even in Lamb’s polling, do you think he’d be throwing every dirty thing, including the kitchen sink, at Jim right now? I don’t know what your inside line to McGovern’s internal polling is right now, but I’d bet you my next year’s salary that it’s not better than mine. Trust me, you’re losing by many ones of a point. Your candidate knows this too, that’s why he’s hitting low, even by his standards.
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p>B) This picture represents the standout and visibility game. Maybe you’re one of the many political neophytes that the Tea Party has brought out, who seem to mistake enthusiasm for strategy. If so, welcome to politics. This is how it works. If you got upstaged at your own event, it’s because your visibility organization sucks. It is definitely not a signal of Niki “running scared”.
christophersays
He said McGovern was the one up by a point, but I agree that’s still ridiculous.
eaboclippersays
can still be bought for standouts Millbury.
eaboclippersays
I mean Dems would never pay Unions to hold signs right?
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christophersays
Like I said below I didn’t join them, but I WAS at Tsongas HQ when they all left for this event. These were just a few super-volunteers who took a few minutes break from phonebanking to do this. Really, EaBo, the stress of the election must be getting to you. You’ve been rather hostile lately.
… means to be a conservative these days: being worried about ACORN, or union members around every corner. Afraid that the bond-villain like fiscal power of Soros will dwarf the efforts of Chamber of Commerce and shift the axis of the earth causing all conservative candidates to fall off. Distraught that the black panthers run voter intimidation drills with German concentration-camp-train-like efficiency. Where foot-stomping, concussion-causing tea partiers are forced to act in self-defense violence only because of gangs of roving “Move-On liberal thugs” spill coffee hot coffee with ruthless tenacity.
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p>It means to be afraid – at least that’s what Fox says we should be.
rollbizsays
When you claim to be the “people’s movement”, but you don’t have the actual people who will stand out in the rain, hold a sign, etc., you have to invent reasons why the other side does. Paid union thugs, whatever.
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p>Anyway, off to GOTV.
kbuschsays
prefer to be bought out by wealthy individuals.
edgarthearmeniansays
those on the right who say the democrats have been bought by the public labor unions.
kbuschsays
I am not going to lose a war of clichés; I want to win on every front.
edgarthearmeniansays
unwilling to take prisoners; they want to crush the other guys. The health reform bill is a classic example: we needed changes in the way health care is delivered and paid for, and leaders of both parties should have worked together to make it happen, if only incrementally.
christophersays
You make it sound like they shoved through single-payer.
edgarthearmeniansays
all of its ramifications–a fact that the right is exploiting in this very election. I wish that the left would stop using this expression “single payer.” What’s so bad about “Universal Medicare”? You would be surprised at the number of people who would support universal coverage, if only out of fairness.
kbuschsays
That seems to be the mythology, often repeated but never verified.
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p>Possibly Republicans never read it as they were uninterested in compromise or even amendment only in defeat.
christophersays
…but I’m nore than happy to say universal Medicare and agree it would probably sell better.
christophersays
Is the whole Gerry Studs thing personal for you? You bring up his name in a completely irrelevant context. Personally, I don’t see the point so I didn’t join them, but I wouldn’t say it’s rude. Not like the Tsongas crowd showed up and started stomping on the heads of Golnik supporters.
kbuschsays
This kind of thing always seems adolescent and cheesy to me.
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p>There are some kinds of competitions which it is tactically stupid for liberals to enter. A battle of boycotts is one example: with their base of churches, conservatives can out-boycott most liberal efforts. Likewise, Republicans proved in Florida, November 2000, with the riots they staged to stop the recount that they’re quite good at this stuff. People who think they are at war with evil tend to shed scruples and niceties. And with the Republican base as usual whipped up with fear — this time flavored with socialism, tyranny, and the Constitution — civility is not only politer. It’s shrewder.
christophersays
…is largely why the Governor is ahead in the polls.
cadmiumsays
Since the Health Care Summer of Hate she has been dogged by disrupters at her events. I was scared for her at the town hall the summer before last. She has been shouted down by Golnik supporters at debates.
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p>I wasnt at this event but it seems mild compared to some of the attacks Nikki had to deal with from Teabaggers at her events.
kbuschsays
somervilletomsays
I don’t know about “Grafton”, but the “0” from JohnD is ratings abuse.
kathysays
😉
christophersays
…JohnD is from Grafton (though I’m not aware of the inside joke another commenter refers to).
I was at that counter vis.
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p>For some odd reason, Golnik’s staff pulled the enemic Golnik vis crew indoors about 20 minutes before Golnik arrived. Then 10 minutes later, Mr. 9/11 got there.
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p>Rudy showed up to see nothing but Tsongas Tsupporters!
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p>The event drew less than 50. 80, if you count us.
Are non-democrats rude when they upstage a democratic event? But democrats, forgive me, are entitled to upstage a non-democratic event? Someone want to try to explain it to me? Niki’s running scared. McGovern is ahead of Lamb by one point, according to Jimmy’s inside polling. Boy, I can’t wait to see the Elbridge Gerry Studds-mandering this time!
A) You are out of your mind if you think Lamb is up on McGovern by a point by McGovern’s polling. If Lamb were up by 1 even in Lamb’s polling, do you think he’d be throwing every dirty thing, including the kitchen sink, at Jim right now? I don’t know what your inside line to McGovern’s internal polling is right now, but I’d bet you my next year’s salary that it’s not better than mine. Trust me, you’re losing by many ones of a point. Your candidate knows this too, that’s why he’s hitting low, even by his standards.
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p>B) This picture represents the standout and visibility game. Maybe you’re one of the many political neophytes that the Tea Party has brought out, who seem to mistake enthusiasm for strategy. If so, welcome to politics. This is how it works. If you got upstaged at your own event, it’s because your visibility organization sucks. It is definitely not a signal of Niki “running scared”.
He said McGovern was the one up by a point, but I agree that’s still ridiculous.
can still be bought for standouts Millbury.
I mean Dems would never pay Unions to hold signs right?
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Like I said below I didn’t join them, but I WAS at Tsongas HQ when they all left for this event. These were just a few super-volunteers who took a few minutes break from phonebanking to do this. Really, EaBo, the stress of the election must be getting to you. You’ve been rather hostile lately.
… means to be a conservative these days: being worried about ACORN, or union members around every corner. Afraid that the bond-villain like fiscal power of Soros will dwarf the efforts of Chamber of Commerce and shift the axis of the earth causing all conservative candidates to fall off. Distraught that the black panthers run voter intimidation drills with German concentration-camp-train-like efficiency. Where foot-stomping, concussion-causing tea partiers are forced to act in self-defense violence only because of gangs of roving “Move-On liberal thugs” spill coffee hot coffee with ruthless tenacity.
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p>It means to be afraid – at least that’s what Fox says we should be.
When you claim to be the “people’s movement”, but you don’t have the actual people who will stand out in the rain, hold a sign, etc., you have to invent reasons why the other side does. Paid union thugs, whatever.
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p>Anyway, off to GOTV.
prefer to be bought out by wealthy individuals.
those on the right who say the democrats have been bought by the public labor unions.
I am not going to lose a war of clichés; I want to win on every front.
unwilling to take prisoners; they want to crush the other guys. The health reform bill is a classic example: we needed changes in the way health care is delivered and paid for, and leaders of both parties should have worked together to make it happen, if only incrementally.
You make it sound like they shoved through single-payer.
all of its ramifications–a fact that the right is exploiting in this very election. I wish that the left would stop using this expression “single payer.” What’s so bad about “Universal Medicare”? You would be surprised at the number of people who would support universal coverage, if only out of fairness.
That seems to be the mythology, often repeated but never verified.
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p>Possibly Republicans never read it as they were uninterested in compromise or even amendment only in defeat.
…but I’m nore than happy to say universal Medicare and agree it would probably sell better.
Is the whole Gerry Studs thing personal for you? You bring up his name in a completely irrelevant context. Personally, I don’t see the point so I didn’t join them, but I wouldn’t say it’s rude. Not like the Tsongas crowd showed up and started stomping on the heads of Golnik supporters.
This kind of thing always seems adolescent and cheesy to me.
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p>There are some kinds of competitions which it is tactically stupid for liberals to enter. A battle of boycotts is one example: with their base of churches, conservatives can out-boycott most liberal efforts. Likewise, Republicans proved in Florida, November 2000, with the riots they staged to stop the recount that they’re quite good at this stuff. People who think they are at war with evil tend to shed scruples and niceties. And with the Republican base as usual whipped up with fear — this time flavored with socialism, tyranny, and the Constitution — civility is not only politer. It’s shrewder.
…is largely why the Governor is ahead in the polls.
Since the Health Care Summer of Hate she has been dogged by disrupters at her events. I was scared for her at the town hall the summer before last. She has been shouted down by Golnik supporters at debates.
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p>I wasnt at this event but it seems mild compared to some of the attacks Nikki had to deal with from Teabaggers at her events.
I don’t know about “Grafton”, but the “0” from JohnD is ratings abuse.
😉
…JohnD is from Grafton (though I’m not aware of the inside joke another commenter refers to).
If he was even half as smart, funny and articulate as Rudy he might really be dangerous………………..