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Legislators organizing for new taxes

March 14, 2011 By judy-meredith

Dear Bah!

Oh dear, as Lily Tomlin says “No matter how cynical I become, it’s never enough to keep up.”  I have never understood why these people, who had to organize their own constituents to win their seats can’t figure out how to organize themselves, as constituents to Legislative Leadership and exercise the pwer they have to bring the Speaker and the Senate President over to some common sense.  

Now, Senator Welch may have been referring to the fact that the House must originate a tax bill, but I assume he knows his Senate President has also spoken out against taxes as this article in the Worcester Telegram points out.

BOSTON —  As a way to avoid deep cuts in human services, state Rep. James J. O’Day, D-West Boylston, laid out a proposal today to raise the state income tax rate to 5.95 percent with new exemptions that would hold lower-income residents harmless.

He also proposed to raise the rate on long-term capital gains from 5.3 to 8.95 percent, while eliminating the special 12 percent rate on short-term capital gains, so that all capital gains would be taxed at the flat rate of 8.95 percent.

Mr. O’Day’s call for the changes comes at a time when tax increases are extremely unpopular among the state’s top leaders. Gov. Deval L. Patrick, House Speaker Robert E. DeLeo, D-Winthrop, and Senate President Therese Murray, D-Plymouth, have all said they will not support tax increases as part of the state budget for fiscal 2012.

 “This is a question of how we want to live,” Mr. O’Day told the Ways and Means Committee today in his testimony about the legislation he filed to raise the income tax rate from the 5.3 percent to 5.95 percent…..

“How do we want to live as a society? Do we want to live with 50 people in a class, with 100 fewer police on the streets in Worcester, fewer firefighters, hardly any community services or community housing for those with disabilities. That’s the issue,” he said. “If we go a step lower, we are going to be hurting a lot of people.”

 

Meanwhile Senator Jamie  Eldridge is actually soliciting support from advocates testifying before his committee hearing about the “potential time bombs” of our deteriorating dams across the state.  (From the Globe/State House News Service's Kyle Cheney)

Sen. James Eldridge (D-Acton), vice chair of the committee, wondered whether MOSES, an organization of 3,300 state engineers and scientists, would support a bill raising the income tax on high-income earners to raise $1.25 billion to offset additional budget cuts. The bill would also raise the state’s capital gains tax to 8.9 percent from 5.3 percent, while calling for exemptions for low and middle income seniors.

“We would certainly be in favor of some form of revenue to support the program,” said Joseph Durant, president of MOSES, who noted that the Office of Dam Safety saw its budget slashed from $1.4 million in fiscal 2008 to $410,151 the following year, a 71 percent reduction. This year, the office was funded at $290,000, and Gov. Deval Patrick has proposed funding it at the same level in the fiscal year that begins July 1. He noted that he was unfamiliar with the specific proposal Eldridge referenced.

Both Representative O Day and Senator Eldridge are two of a small but critical mass of Reps and Senators who are pressing their respective Leaders to give them a chance to have a full and fair debate on new taxes. So far they are hearing – no, no and no. But they are not quitting from gathering the support of their colleagues and creating a “buzz” around the State House.

  
Remember, the power of the Legislative Leaders rests in their ability to win their office at least twice – once from their district and once from their colleagues in their party caucus, and then again (and again) if there is any dissention –organized or unorganized –within the ranks of their caucus. (Just think of all the fun the so called “powerful” Speaker of the House in Congress John Boehner is having dealing with the new caucus of Tea Party members inside the usually pretty docile and disciplined Congressional Republican caucus.)

As Margaret Thatcher said “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are– you're not. “

And nobody knows that better than Legislative leaders, who have to earn and re earn the trust and support of their Members every day in order to maintain their power.
 

crossposted on Hecate's blog at the Public Policy Institute.

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  1. amberpaw says

    March 14, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    You know, “All animals are equal but some are more equal” – the tragedy parodied in the book is being played out over and over around us – yet every representative ran for election with an agenda to make our Commonwealth better, not to become toadies.  Maybe with 43 new legislators their fresh blood, not yet beaten into cynicism, will make a difference.

  2. peter-porcupine says

    March 15, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    It helps them duck responsibility – Ooohh, the Speaker says jump high!  REALLY sorry I can’t do what I said, but it’s the SPEAKER…

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    p>They just voted new rules as part of the new session.  Tell me – did ANY Democrat not vote to go along to get along?

    • judy-meredith says

      March 16, 2011 at 10:15 am

      You know as well as I do that Members vote for the rules knowing that there is an exception, or reason to suspend  every one of the rules, except for that one about exceptions and suspensions.

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      p>And there have been men and women, even on the Democratic section who stood up to Speakers on tough issues, and built majority caucus and succeeded in winning important policy changes. Barney Frank, Mel King George Keverian, Iris Holland, Majorie Claprood, Charlie Flaherty, Paul Demakis, Sal DiMaisi, why we could go on forever. And as the examples I just pulled out of my memory bank show, some of them ended up Speakers themselves only to face rebellious Members themselves.  

      • peter-porcupine says

        March 16, 2011 at 11:52 am

        But Judy – by submitting quietly, they forfeit their right to kvetch.  They could vote Present if they don’t want to oppose.  They have it in their hands to limit the power they fear, and they don’t.

        • judy-meredith says

          March 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm

          She was a very lovely and tough lady, who always acted like a lady and never voted for the rules and never gave up her right to kvetch. Of course she was a Republican.

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          p>She originated the budget debate rule — still referred to as the “Holland Rule”, and still adopted by the House every year, that anyone offering an amendment adding anything to the budget had to accompany the amendment with another that reduced another line item by an equivalent amount of money.

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          p>Each amendment was debated separately and when the inevitable reduction amendment taking a million from the Governor’s office passed, the Leadership could always blame the rank and file “were off the reservation”.  

      • jimc says

        March 16, 2011 at 2:23 pm

        Nearly everyone, but especially Charlie Flaherty and maybe Marjorie Clapprood, would have been US senators from some states. Our bench is deep.

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        p>

  3. jimc says

    March 16, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Didn’t I hear that the governor also took taxes off the table?

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    p>It would be nice to see some rational debate on this, rather than New Hampshire-style pledge politics. Too many lips to read.

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    p>

    • judy-meredith says

      March 16, 2011 at 10:33 am

      Yeah, the Governor, after listening to a lot of his supporters asking him to act on previous promises to “consider” tax reform decided to stick with his campaign promise in the last week of the campaign to “take new taxes off the table”. He did include some “fee” increases like the bottle bill. No more talking to him for a couple of months.

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      p>Now the House is setting a new table, and that’s why folks inside and outside of the House are trying to build a critical mass of Members asking for a full and fair debate on progressive tax reform that would among other things:

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      p>

      The act proposes
      an increase in the income tax rate from 5.3% to 5.95%, including an increase in personal exemptions from $4,400 (single) / $8,800 (married) to $7,900 (single) / $15,800 (married). It also proposes an increase of the dividends and interests rate from 5.3% to 8.95%, with an exemption for low and middle income seniors and disabled persons.

      The proposal would yield up to 1.2 billion dollars, necessary to taking a more balanced approach to the current budget gap and continuing to support our public structures.

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      p>For a little history on past changes in the income tax and some recent news on how new revenues are needed to begin to rebuild and restore the health of our communities see this.  

      • jimc says

        March 17, 2011 at 5:18 am

        Very nice. I hope they make it bigger and add some seats.

        • judy-meredith says

          March 17, 2011 at 6:27 am

          in hard won elections — (I know I know, but even folk who had no opponents still had to stand, in public, for re election, and whose fault is that?)

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          p>But we can, with smart savvy organizing and public education efforts, influence their opinion and support their participation in a full and fair discussion — in public and behind closed doors– about the need for new revenues.

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          p>They do have to answers to their constituents about over crowded schools, un repaired pot holes, closed state parks etc etc in a mere 13 months after all.

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          p>Maybe some challengers who are ready to offer a balanced solution of cuts and new revenues?.  

    • mark-bail says

      March 16, 2011 at 11:25 am

      This is America, pal.

      • jimc says

        March 16, 2011 at 2:21 pm

        Debating the rationale. :-!

        • mark-bail says

          March 16, 2011 at 5:23 pm

          or teaching that is killing my spelling.  

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