As you can see from the table below, Wayland got $244,512. They have 195 teachers as measured by Full Time Equivalents (FTE's).
The link to the actual Mass.gov spreadsheet is here. The tab is aid436 and the cell is Cell 329:BE. Some people might suggest that $1,250 for our hard working teachers doesn't seem like much but that's not what the money was supposed to be for! The Federal Department of Education defines what an LEA (Local Education Authority) can spend stimulus money on in Guidance Document released last August.
D-1. For what purposes may an LEA use its Ed Jobs funds?
An LEA must use its funds only for compensation and benefits and other expenses, such as support services, necessary to retain existing employees, to recall or rehire former employees, and to hire new employees,(emphasis added in order to provide early childhood, elementary, or secondary educational and related services.
Their new contract says that any stimulus dollars aka Education Jobs Funding grants received will be paid out in a one time lump sum to each employee. (emphasis added)
Below is a link to the Town of Wayland's new agreement with the Teacher's Association (a union) for the contract term 2010-2013. Click on the link "Wayland Teachers Association (2010-2013)" and it will download the entire contract in PDF format. Pay particular attention to page 30 where the salary schedules begin. In between years 2010 and 2011 they very smoothly stuck in the following …
For the 2010-2011 school year, in addition to the above, any funds received by the Committee from the Federal Education Jobs Funding grant shall be divided equally by the number of FTEs, and each bargaining unit member shall receive a one-time lump sum payment equivalent to that FTE amount, apportioned according to the bargaining unit member?s full-time equivalent status, within 30 days of the Committee?s receipt of the Federal Job Acts grant.
Wayland Teacher's Association (2010-2013)
So in Wayland not a job created. Not a job retained. Just a straight out $1,250 cash giveaway to public union members.
Maybe this is why public union supporters don't want tax payers voting on union contracts.
Back in January I posted Public Employee Unions. Let's level the playing field in which I suggested that tax payers should have the ability to vote on such contracts. In the comments that followed there were the predictable protestations in favor of representative government. (Not hearing a lot of that about what's going on in Wisconsin but I digress.) Well that only works if our elected officials are actually representing the tax payers.
So when does 11.5% equal 1.5%?
When the unions and their enablers in government tells us it does!
In this news report from WickedLocal/Wayland states…
WAYLAND — The following was submitted by the Wayland Teachers Association and the Wayland School Committee:
The Wayland Teachers Association (WTA) and the Wayland School Committee are pleased to announce a new three-year labor agreement has been reached.
One of the major points of the agreement within the new contract involves salary increases. For the 2010-11 school year, each teacher will receive a one-time payment funded exclusively from the Federal Education Jobs Funding program. In addition, for the 2011-12 school year, each teacher will receive a salary increase of 1 percent and a 1.5 percent one-time payment. For the final year of the contract, the 2012-13 school year, each teacher will receive a 2.5 percent salary increase.
Note that the statement was issued jointly by the Teacher's Association AND the elected School Committee. I think most tax payers in Wayland would look at the report in their local paper and think to themselves that a 1.5% to 2.5% raise for the average teacher would seem reasonable. There's only one problem with it. It is a flat out, bold faced LIE!
No mention of a pay increase in the 2010-2011 school year. But a close look at the tables from the contract (and a little handy work with a calculator tells a much different story.
Here is a screen shot from the contract as posted on the Wayland website.
In 2010-2011 a teacher with a Bachelor's degree and 3 years on the job is receiving $46,548 in salary. Now according to the schedule for 2011-2012 school year that same teacher will receive $51,900 because they now have 4 years experience. The 1.5% that the Unions and their city government enablers are claiming, is the difference between the salary for teacher this year with say 3 years on the job versus what a teacher next year with 3 years on the job will make. Of course the teacher who had 3 years experience last year will have 4 years experience this year and will "step to the loo my darling."
Some might say those are simply "step raises". They're still raises and a lot more than one or two percent. I would suggest Wayland teachers are "stepping" in it. I'm pretty good at math and the difference between $51,900 and $46,548 is $5,352. $5,352 divided by $46,548 equals a raise of 11.497%. Not too shabby in a tough economy and certainly not a raise that many if any in the private sector are being granted.
Perhaps the current pay increases are to make up for the beating teacher's salaries took in the 2008 and 2009 during the economic recession. Not so much. According to the Massachusetts Department of Education website, the average salary for a Wayland teacher jumped by over $6000 or 8.3% between 2008 and 2009.
Am I saying that teaching children isn’t important? No. Am I saying that a Wayland teacher isn’t on average worth $79,000 a year? No. (Of course that is $12,000 more per year than the average teacher in Massachusetts.)
What I am saying is “Stop lying to us saying that teachers are only getting a 1.5% to 2.5% a year raise and stop lying to us that stimulus money is being used to create or save jobs!”
bradmarston says
I am taking silence as agreement.
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sabutai says
That we don’t run after every post by every frustrated conservative? Sorry I didn’t have “reply to Brad Marston about what he wrote” in my schedule the past 18 hours. There are a few questionable things in your post I’ll address as soon as more important business is taken care of. Until then, please keep patting yourself on the back; just be careful of getting a hernia.
eaboclipper says
in documenting this abomination in Wayland you would have been on it fast. This is indefensible and I look forward to your attempt at defending it.
doubleman says
It was a poor use of stimulus funds. They should have used them to hire more teachers, not pay current teachers more than they would have in a normal year.
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doubleman says
Hiring people with a one-time payment was the intention of the stimulus. If people did not use it as such, its effects would not be as great. You may disagree with the purpose of the stimulus and think it is irresponsible, but a one time payment was the whole purpose.
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nopolitician says
The intention of the stimulus is right in the rules:
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nopolitician says
The world doesn’t revolve around you. My questions were in reply to DoubleMan, not you.
bradmarston says
to point out that most of the teachers are getting raises between 6% and 20% and not the 1.5 to 2.5% that the town and the union claimed.
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doubleman says
If you were trying to make a narrow point about Wayland stinking, that’s fine, but I don’t think you were.
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nopolitician says
You said it yourself, the teachers with 12+ years of experience are not getting any step raises. So how are “most” teachers getting “raises between 6% and 20%”? Are most teachers in Wayland under 12 years of experience?
somervilletom says
I choose not to respond to this garbage just as I don’t bother responding to Creationists who challenge me to “prove” evolution.
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christopher says
…and figured it wasn’t worth commenting on:)
christopher says
See the smiley emoticon at the end of the comment? It was meant in jest so lighten up!
edgarthearmenian says
had the attitude that you were too good to discuss many a topic. Again, sorry.
sabutai says
Brad is attempting to make two points:
-The EdJobs grant was misused.
-The press release was a lie.
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eaboclipper says
He’s saying that the press release lied when saying that there was only a 1.5% raise. It was a raise across all steps. But every teacher under 10 years moves up a step until the reach the 10 year mark. So their raises are more than 1.5% now aren’t they.
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johnk says
just saying.
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bradmarston says
because that is the term 1) most often used in general parlance regarding and 2)used in official reports.
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sabutai says
The law says you can use EdJobs to retain employees. You pretended that it said to retain jobs. That’s either dishonest or erroneous. Then again, you’re on the team that has redefined “patriotism” to mean “shut up when we’re in charge, stockpile weapons when we aren’t” so no surprise there.
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nopolitician says
First out, you cherry-picked the step between 3 and 4 — from your spreadsheet (not including the contract raise), the step jumps 9.3% there, but look at the other years:
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2 to 3: 4.8%
3 to 4: 9.3%
4 to 5: 4.2%
5 to 6: 4.1%
6 to 7: 3.9%
7 to 8: 3.8%
8 to 9: 3.6%
9 to 10: 9.7%
10 to 11: 1.1%
11 to 12: 14.9%
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bradmarston says
I would have used years 9-10 for someone with a BA or the roughly 20% increases for higher education levels in year 12.
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nopolitician says
Hmm. I’ve thought about what you said, and I’ve come to realize that your position doesn’t really add up.
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mrstas says
If Wayland teachers were paid for performance, they’d have to be paid a lot more, with results like these.
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mark-bail says
your new-found wonkiness. Your research is much appreciated, at least by me. Your reasoning, however, is problematic due to your using Wayland as a case study. See Hasty Generalization.
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jim-gosger says
the teachers who are lower on the salary schedule received a larger percentage. It sounds like the Wayland School Committee used stimulus money to pay for teacher salaries rather than use local tax money. It also sounds like that was a legal thing to do. Did Brad or anyone in his office contact the Wayland School Committee for an explanation?
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johnk says
This is a one time lump sum payment, your statement about persons on the lower part of the salary scale doesn’t make much sense.
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jim-gosger says
It’s a negotiated salary increase. The reason it’s a one time deal is that the School Committee likely didn’t want this increase to add to the teacher’s base salary. In this way when the stimulus money went away they don’t have to use local tax money to continue to pay it.
massparent says
Massachusetts distributed the education stimulus funds using the chapter 70 formula. Without the funds, there would have been larger gaps between the state’s calculations of funding needs and available funds, by about $200 million in FY11, and that would have resulted in fairly chaotic cuts from previous year aid levels for a number of districts.
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petr says
I don’t believe in coincidences. I don’t believe that events in one context, and neatly mirrored in another, are mere happenstance… I do believe, as my friend Will once put it, “There is a divinity that shapes our ends, rough hew them as we will.”
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p>Despite what is happening in Wisconsin more scrutiny is employed, in the media and among many of my associates, to the details of that OTHER collective bargaining agreement: the NFL and the NFLPA. Here’s the rub: it’s mostly an approving view when it comes to the NFL/NFLPA and mostly a disapproving view when it comes to the public unions. Why izzat, do you think?
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p>Do you get your knickers in a twist over the billionares vs the millionares? ‘Cause they’re most frightfully twisted over a rather piddling sum involving teachers. In sheer dollar terms, so much more is at stake with the NFL… yet you’re mad at teachers? And don’t tell me that the NFL is strictly a private capitalists concern when A) most players training was subsidized first in public high schools and later through state schools and athletic scholarships and 2) most owners receive a great deal of state and federal aid to build their gigundo-behomass stadiums and are granted land-rights and right of way exceptions that ordinary people probably couldn’t get if they tried…
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p>I mean, if unions are ever and always evil and collective bargaining is always bad, why don’t you don’t you get into even higher moral dudgeon over ALL collective bargaining? Why are you not apoplectic with rage over the situation in the NFL/NFLPA bargaining when nearly every facet is merely a greater degree of the bargaining done in Wayland…? Or, put another way, why is Hines Ward any more special than Joe Random Wayland Teacher??
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p>The stakes couldn’t be more clear and an exquisite degree of media scrutiny is directed at the collective bargaining between the NFL and the NFLPA. If one were really and truly opposed to unions and collective bargaining… well, here’s your chance!!!… What more could you ask for?
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p>I’m certain that, if you looked as closely into the NFL/NFLPA negotiations you’d find even more perfidy and double dealings as you would in a dozen Massachusetts school districts… you might even find one or two BOLD FACED LIES. Have at it. Go for it. Here’s your chance to reveal collective bargaining for the bald socialism it so clearly is. Stand up and be true to your ideals.
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p>That’s your opportunity and what do you do? You tilt your head sideways, squint real hard and try to make like Wayland school teachers are…what? getting more money?
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p>shock. horror. gasp.
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bradmarston says
in a single post as opposed to trying to answer each individually.
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p>As I see it the comments seem to fall into 3 main categories:
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p>1) Ascribing to me arguments I have never made or motives I do not harbor;
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p>2) That this was an effective use of funds and/or somehow in keeping with the intent of the legislation and the justifications given at the time it was passed; and
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p>3) The rest are so far off-topic as to really not justify a response beyond “The NFL? Please” just as an example.
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p>One commenter referred to me as Komrad and suggested I was in favor of all teachers being paid the same. It’s not an argument I made but it is in fact what private sector unions have long advocated for their members. However as my post wasn’t about pay levels I’ll leave it at that.
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p>Also, I didn’t “choose” Wayland. Rather Wayland, or at least the upset city official who sent me the initial information, chose me. I actually applaud Wayland for it’s transparency in putting the contracts online. While I did not conduct an exhaustive search, it is the only municipality I found which does so.
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p>Unfortunately I am reasonably certain that too few citizens avail themselves of the opportunity to really look at the contract. In offline discussions most people I have spoken to had no idea that most public sector contracts call for automatic step raises.
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p>It requires a special kind of rhetorical gymnastics to suggest as some have that a nearly quarter million dollar in bonuses was an effective use of funds. This $10 billion national expenditure was justified/rationalized as being necessary to avoid the impending layoffs of thousands of teachers. That certainly wasn’t what it was used for in Wayland. As I have mentioned above, to date educational districts in the state have spent less than 10% of the money. Not much of an emergency in my mind or certainly a delayed response at best.
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p>For those still confused as to the argument I actually made I will repeat myself:
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david says
Wow. Feel free to back that one up!
bradmarston says
http://www.ueunion.org/stwd_tw…
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p>Wow. That was easy.
lightiris says
First of all, I’m a public school teacher and I have no idea what your first link is supposed to prove. The “UE,” whoever they are, have nothing to do with me, my negotiated contract, and what I want in wages and benefits as a public school teacher in the Commonwealth. So, as both a sitting school committee member (with seven years’ experience) and as a public school teacher who has served on several contract negotiating committees, I can say that your first link is irrelevant.
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p>Second, as soon as I saw “factory worker” in your second link, I stopped reading. I am not a factory worker. I don’t know what factory workers need or want; I don’t know what factory work has to do teaching students to read and write.
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p>Let me give you a tip: when you provide links to “easily” back up your assertions, make sure they are relevant and within context.
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p>That said, I will say that what you claim as “proof” of your assertions is revelatory. Unionized workers are not all the same. All unions are not all the same. What I demand in fair wages and benefits may or may not have anything to do with what a factory worker in Milwaukee demands. In short, your simplistic, reductive, and self-serving treatment of unionized workers and unions as monolithic entities reveals much about you, none of which is positive or encouraging.
mark-bail says
benefit system. It’s a salary schedule. All teachers are on the same schedule. Everyone makes the same progress over time. When we max out on steps, there is a longevity bonus.
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p>People who don’t work in the public sector are probably unfamiliar with salary schedules, though they’ve been used by the federal government for at least 60 years. It’s not surprising you aren’t aware of the schedule; however, I’ve heard your accusation that steps are raises many times before, including in teacher contract negotiations.
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p>Wikipedia–the place where we hide things we don’t want people to know–has an entry on the general schedule, the federal pay system.
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p>I’d tried to figure out the name of your last fallacy, and I hurt my head. I’m going to call it a faulty syllogism.
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p>1. Salary schedules have multiple tiers.
2. A two-tiered salary system has multiple tiers.
3. Salary schedules are two-tiered salary systems.
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p>The problem is that what you cite doesn’t not refer to salary schedules, which all teachers are on. So they are treated equally based on education and on longevity.
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lightiris says
Mr. Marston is not interested in learning about the esoteric details of teacher compensation. He is a man on a mission, a mission about unions, a mission that tells about badness, badness of unions, and people in unions, who are bad, and lazy, like public school teachers, who are lazy and belong to unions, which are bad and pay people too much money, like public school teachers who make too much money, because of unions, which are bad.
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p>You’ve not been paying attention, Mark.
bradmarston says
My last comment was in answer to David’s request to back up my assertion that private sector unions have long fought against two or multi-tiered wage structures as it violates the principle of “equal pay for equal work.”
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p>Given that the comment that David was referring to was regarding private sector unions, I believe a link to comments and statements by private sector unions is entirely relevant.
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p>Mark I am sorry you hurt your head. But if your brain is still functioning I welcome you to explain how one teacher getting paid $44,000 to teach while another teacher gets paid $74,000 for the exact same job fits the private sector union idea of equal pay for equal work.
nopolitician says
What are you advocating for?
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p>Do you think that two teachers (with different years of service) should be paid the exact same salary?
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p>You seem to love to dodge taking a position, and what you do say is inconsistent with what you later deny.
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p>This appears to be your only point:
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p>After all this discussion, it is now pretty easy to counter.
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p>1) Career-track teachers are on a salary scale that brings them from a low entry level salary to a higher salary commensurate with their experience. This is practical because it fits the applicant market — younger teachers with lower life expenses are willing to work for less money, older teachers with higher life expenses need more money. It also fits the traditional American model of getting raises each year that allow you to do more than just “keep up” with inflation (which, most people can tell you, is understated because it presumes that as prices rise, you will stop buying steak and will buy hamburger instead — which sounds like a bleak existence to me).
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p>I think that reporting the average amount that teachers receive in yearly increases would be a misleading figure and would lead to the public fixating on keeping the raise figure down to inflation levels and eliminating steps — which would ultimately mean paying everyone the same amount, from the novice to the veteran. Given that people have different salary needs when they are 22 versus 50, that would ultimately mean raising the salary level for everyone to the highest level. Doing otherwise would result in higher turnover and/or lower quality applicants because people would need more money but could not achieve it without leaving for another job. Given that we have increased the credentials necessary for teaching but haven’t really raised the salaries that much, I think that our applicant pool is shallow as it is (lots of non-certified teachers in systems due to necessity), which means that the salaries are too low to attract proper talent.
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mark-bail says
There are multiple “steps.” Two teachers may, in fact, be making $44,000 and $74,000. And thus be on separate steps.
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p>But this is not a two-tiered system on which one set of workers would proceed on Tier 1 and one set of workers would proceed on Tier 2 forever. If you read the UE site, then you know surely understand this. They’re talking about employees hired after a certain date will start at a lower rate and pay more for benefits than someone who started 5 years earlier. The second set of employees will never catch up.
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p>Let’s say teachers on Step 4 earn $44,000, and teachers on step 15 earn $74,000. The step 4 teacher will eventually reach step 15 and make $74,000 or whatever that step pays then. One assumption of the salary schedule is that more experienced teachers, while filling the same position, are more effective than less experienced teachers.
david says
What are we going to do with you.
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p>Maybe it’s just me, but favoring everyone “being paid the same” and opposing “two or multi-tiered wage structures” seem rather different. I was reacting to the first, which seems extraordinarily unlikely; I know nothing about the second. What you are doing is trying to retroactively change your argument, but I’m afraid that’s a blog foul, and we’ll have to ask you to back up 15 yards from your computer.
bradmarston says
Here are a couple of suggestions…
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p>Stop with the smug, sanctimonious tone typical of liberals which screams “You disagree with me so I must be more intelligent than you are.”
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p>Stop attributing to me arguments I never made.
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p>David. Perhaps you would be better off leaving your comment at “I know nothing.”
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hoyapaul says
As several commenters have noted, including NoPolitician, you did the typical rhetorical trick of cherry-picking your data as part of an ideological argument.
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p>Secondly, you cherry-pick the step between year 3 and 4 in the Wayland contract to exaggerate your point. Don’t give me any of this “well, I COULD have cherry-picked year 10 to 11 instead…!”. The fact is that you cherry-picked a particular year, in a particular town, in order to use your data in a misleading way. As NoPolitician noted, this is the year that a teacher moves from the probationary period to the tenure period, so it makes sense that the increase would be larger in this one specific year.
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