I encourage you to check out the companion Observer video and article where 10-year-old Mary tells her story:
‘My youngest brother died. The pastor told my mother it was because I was a witch. Three men came to my house. I didn’t know these men. My mother left the house. Left these men. They beat me.’ She pushes her fists under her chin to show how her father lay, stretched out on his stomach on the floor of their hut, watching. After the beating there was a trip to the church for ‘a deliverance’.
A day later there was a walk in the bush with her mother. They picked poisonous ‘asiri’ berries that were made into a draught and forced down Mary’s throat.
Of course, Kenya is not Nigeria and I am unaware of reports claiming Pastor Muthee harmed children. But he still participates in this fraudulent enterprise and Kenyan witch hunts are still deadly.
In late May, news outlets in Kenya told the story of 15 people, mostly elderly women, who were murdered in a witch hunt near the town of Kisii. The killings shocked the nation.
Villagers said more than 100 people gathered machetes and knives and stormed the village of Kegogi after midnight.
“They started banging on the doors, they broke into the house and then they killed our grandmother inside,” says Justus Bosire. “The mob was screaming and we panicked. We ran away and they came to our house and burned it to the ground.”
When Bosire returned to his grandmother’s house, he found her dead on the floor in a bed of embers. His father is missing.
Officials say a mob has burned to death 11 people suspected of being witches and wizards in western Kenya.
Deputy police spokesman Charles Owino says the mob hunted down the 8 women and 3 men in two villages in the western Kenya district of Kisii Central. Owino says most of the victims were between 70 years old and 90 years old.
Pastor Muthee, irrespective of his individual actions, traffics in a criminal practice disguised as religion that promulgates terror, torture, child abuse, and murder. If Sarah Plain wants people to be “scared” that Obama consorts with terrorists and dangerous preachers, then those people should be even more scared of the “terrorist” and child-abuse supporting preacher that anointed her in Wasilla.
Rev. Wright, for all his histrionics, is just words. Call me when Rev. Wright deals in the terror and torture that is Muthee’s trademark.
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Further reading:
HuffPo: The Witch Hunter Anoints Sarah Palin by Max Blumenthal
NYT: African Crucible: Cast as Witches, Then Cast Out by Sharon LaFraniere
sadly takes many forms in Africa, as it does here in the United States. Uganda, for example, has made it a crime to come out as gay.
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p>Just words?
Sooo, your strategy is to compare a Kenyan cleric who was just passin’ through, who Gov. Palin probably didn’t know, and never saw before or after – with the openly racist cleric for whom Sen. Obama had the highest regard, patronized for over twenty years and with whose hate fueled philosophy he was comfortable inculcating his two young daughters?
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p>Lemme know how that works out for ya.
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aside, the rancid Christianity displayed here only reinforces the notion that wingnuts are selective when it comes to determining unacceptable, um, heresy. What’s wrong with a little child abuse here and there as long as it’s just passing through–perhaps on its way to a we-hate-America AIP confab?
And yeah, I am laughing.
I’m laughing at tblade for the genuinely hilarious notion that he could ever hope to tar Palin with condoning the abuse of children.
And I’m laughing at you for your barely coherent reply.
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p>By the way, I don’t accuse Wright of heresy – he’s not important enough for me to be bothered.
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p>I’m accusing Barack Obama of hypocrisy and dishonesty.
If Barack Obama was exorcised of witches by a Black preacher from Kenya who was connected with gross atrocities the heads of You, Eabo, JohnD and the entire right wing talk radio/blog chattering class would collectively implode and you’d be screaming for Obama to resign.
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p>Sarah Palin knew of Muthee’s famous witch chasing story before she was blessed at her church and she still chose to rave about him this past summer. The man is more of a terrorist than Ayers and a bigger nut than Wright. I’m not saying Palin willingly condones the abuse of children (anyone with who read the post would see that); I’m saying that Sarah Palin is reckless in her choice of pastors which which she associates and that her affiliation with and affinity for Muthee undermines her silly line of attack on Obama. As the title of my post suggests, let she who is without sin cast the first stone.
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p>You know, perhaps the witch hunt story should have raised a red flag in a thinking person’s mind and they’d want to investigate what actually happens in these African witch hunts and learn about the torture, murders and abuses? But Palin no, is too: a.) dim-witted b.) disinterested in the well-being of so-called “witches” c.) ignorant or d.) gullible and just accepts this guys story and thinks nothing is wrong or fishy with the story.
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p>Sorry, but I like a little more intellectual sophistication and a little less 17th Century superstition in my candidates. I do wonder though if I’m forced to explain this to you because your church casts out witches you see nothing wrong with the practice – now that would be hilarious.
You used the term “intellectual sophistication”! lol.
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p>If I had a nickel for every time I heard an intellectually superior liberal use that term, I could’ve bailed out Fannie & Freddie.
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…cause you got nothing. All you can do is pick on my verbiage.
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p>Hilarious.
…the predictable verbiage was the only noteworthy element of your comment.
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p>Still laughing.
Justice Scalia, Justice Ginsberg, and their families spent holidays together.
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p>Civility is not impossible among ideological adversaries.
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p>I don’t understand why you think that it reflects well on you that you’re “still laughing.” You often come to these discussions well-prepared, you often provide interesting and contrary information, you’re able to follow arguments, and so on, but, you know, it does not have to be tribal warfare.
of anything you like and find Sarah Palin’s confidence in and admiration of a child abusing Christian minister hilarious. And some of us can consign you to the next edition of Lessons In Crackpottery Volume II: Disingenuous Wingnuts To Be Ignored.
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p>Yeah, just ships passing in the night.
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p>Oh, and don’t forget to check out that David Brickner guy…
It’s worth noting that Palin made those very enthusiastic comments about Muthee this past June.
Remember my post: http://vps28478.inmotionhosting.com/~bluema24/s…
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p>Here in Massachusetts being accused of Witchcraft killed 20 people – men, women,and children.
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p>Where is the repentance for taking vengeance on supposition, based on ignorance and fear, today? That video was the most chilling document I have seen yet this election. I recommend my post, and the book about Judge Sewall I profiled.
but boy are you over-the-top caustic.
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p>And, no, I don’t agree with your assessment of Rev. Wright, but you might be correct as to what might or might not “stick”.
I will take a vinegar bath (Balsamic), and see if that helps any ;^P
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p>To the point:
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p>Generally, I prefer to maintain at least the veneer of civility, with the hope that my opponent is equally sincere, rational, and open to well considered arguments that may be contrary to his/her own.
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p>Here, however, the diarist has attempted to equate a single event at Sarah Palin’s church involving a cleric of questionable character with a twenty year long extremely close affiliation between Barack Obama and a cleric of questionable character.
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p>Now comes the required connecting of the dots;
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p>Has it been established here that a prior or a continuing relationship exists between Governor Palin and the so-called “Reverend” Muthee? Answer: No.
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p>Has it been established here that Governor Palin was aware of the alleged abuses of the “Reverend” in his native Kenya? Answer: No.
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p>Gratuitous assertions, sans citations, were made. And the ante was upped with the not so subtle suggestion that those who disagree with the overall premise of the diary are somehow intellectually wanting.
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p>Well, gosh darn it, I’m just simple folk. I require a little proof, and some ketchup also, when someone is tryin’ to serve me up a moose s**t sandwich.
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p>I will at least nibble upon said sandwich however, if the aforementioned dots are properly connected.
It was on the basis of this fame that Muthee was invited to Wasilla and he spoke about the witch hunt in his 10 sermons delivered at Wasilla baptist. This guy also cam back to Wasilla AOG last month. But if you choose to believe that she had no knowledege of his witch hunting prowess before hand, nothing will change your mind, and if it did, you’d just find another excuse for Palin.
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http://www.alternet.org/electi…
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p>Not to mention, Obama has already denounced Ayers and Wright. When she heard about witcraft after received her blessings, perhaps she might have had the curiosity to find out what the hell Muthee was talking about, but she didn’t. Muthee has been a story for three weeks and it’s no secret about the atrocities visited on those who in Africa are arbitrarily labeled “witches”. If she doesn’t know now about her witch doctor and the atrocities visited upon so-called “witches” in Africa, she should. But she continues to think that her poop don’t stink and somehow she has the moral high ground to cast stones at obama from her glass house.
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p>geo999 is correct on one account, Even if Palin’s connection to Muthee is smaller in time magnitude, what he traffics in is so inhuman and heinous that it is impossible to equate to Muthee to Wright and Ayers.
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p>To thinking people with compassion and sense of human decency , Muthee is a far bigger stain on Palin than Wright is on Obama. I’ll say again, Rev Wrght’s invectives didn’t propagate a cultural practice that is responsible for killing any children or elderly women.
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p>Palin may have been ignorant enough to have an excuse during Muthee’s visit in 2005. She has no excuse now not to distance herself from Muthee.
You wasted my time.
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p>I went back over your diary.
Not only do you not tie Governor Palin to any of this stuff, you don’t even tie Pastor Thomas Muthee to it.
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p>You threw up disparate links and used an above-the-fold picture of an abused child in your appeal to sympathy.
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p>But you never tied any of it together.
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p>Shame on you.
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p>You can keep the sandwich.
Take some personal responsibility for “wasting” your own time and stop pretending you were victimized by me.
two total loosers for “leader” of the “free” world while Lehman CEO walks away with half a trillion. Only in what was once America.
…and I did, you’d know that it was less than 350mil over 8 years. Hardly a pittance of course, but he also lost every bit of stock he had, which was considerable – certainly not the scenario of someone who was busy raping the firm.
who said we have got to stop doing what we are doing. I can personally relate to the firing of people who have been proven over decades to be stellar upstanding contributors to the goodness of all mankind and to the corporate bottom line but have been prohibited from entering the building and prompted an immediate meeting to tell his former employees specifically not to talk to him should they see him in the building. Yes my former boss had the specific skill of embarassing the crap out of Satan’s minions who collected a paycheck for their skill of de-constructing a funcionting American enterprise by using financial bullshit propaganda and getting a bonus for it.